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9:08 pm
July 26, 2011


thebreezz

Wheel Well Regular

posts 148

Hi, I'm new so plese give me some help. I wish someone would do some posts with pics of the different cars that I have seen. First there is the single releases that have the wrong #15 printed for #16 Redline. The three card backs of #4-Francesco, #5-Holley, #6-Professor Z have #15 for Redline. I also have now found the corrected ones with Redline as #16. I have also seen different eyes on Acer and Grem and Professor Z and McQueen with party wheels and race team Fillmore. The Sarge in the 7 pack has two lines and the single has one line on the hood. There are some other ones that I can't think of off the top of my head, but I would love to see some articles on them. If someone could send me some info and Pics I would be thankful. thebreezz@hotmail.com

11:31 pm
July 26, 2011


Mike Manifold

Chi-Car-Go

Member

posts 717

Welcome! Some of this stuff has been discussed and you may be able to find it by searching the site. Longtime Cars enthusiast, BMW, has some pictures of the error cardback and the corrected cardback to which you refer. Here is the link (hope it's ok MET): http://carsthetoys.yuku.com/to…..i-g6c0QuRE I remember hearing that all of the Cars with initially incorrect cardbacks were later found with corrected cardbacks. The different eyes and wheel variations are deliberate, but I'm not sure that there is an actual list of them yet, unless someone here is keeping a list privately. Cheers!

11:47 pm
July 26, 2011


TheCaptain

Townie

posts 83

I've noticed the different eyes as well. In fact today I finally got the 2 pack mcqueen with yet amother francesco after going back & forth since may 15 when I picked up the 5 pack (w/ differnt eye mcqueen with party wheels. And kept my filmore after getting the 2 pack with traveling wheels a while ago. I know I'd kick myself later if I didn't. But I'll be danged if I'm going to buy the 7 pack for a different striped sarge. "collect almost all of them"?

1:59 am
July 27, 2011


slicepie

Original Member of Two A Day Wordpress

Member

posts 1029

Mike the link is busted/not working.

The requested URL /topic/16220/Cars-2-Case-Lists was not found on this server.

Thousands of Cars available for trade or sale.  Always looking for older and harder to find Cars.  Email me at slicepie@roadrunner.com

7:31 am
July 27, 2011


jestrjef

Central FLA

Member

posts 953

Welcome to the Cars Madness! These cars have 2 different versions because of their facial expressions, so they are not errors:

Acer
Grem
McQueen w/ Party Wheels
McQueen w/ Racing Wheels
Prof. Z
Race Team Fillmore
Uncle Topolino

There maybe more, but these I can confirm as they are right in front of me. 🙂

As for the error issues, like Mike said, I would refer to BMW or someone else who has really kept track of that. Those are not my quart of oil!! Laugh

9:06 am
July 27, 2011


BMW

Team 95 Roadie

posts 193

Here is what we have been tracking. The ones with the sub a. are the variants. There may be more. these are confirmed though.
This list is for the cars only, not the cardback changes.

[ ] 1. race team mater
[ ] 2. finn mcmissile
[ ] 3. lightning mcqueen with racing wheels
[ ] 3a.lightning mcqueen with racing wheels launcher version has different expression
[ ] 4. francesco bernoulli
[ ] 4a. francesco bernoulli [kmart rubber tires]
[ ] 5. holley shiftwell
[ ] 5a. holley shiftwell [wheel variation backwards spokes]
[ ] 6. professor z
[ ] 6a. professor z [no teeth showing - walmart]
[ ] 7. jeff gorvette
[ ] 8. carla veloso
[ ] 9. raoul caroule – white stripe
[ ] 9a. raoul caroule – silver stripe [connect puzzle set]
[ ] 10. guido &
[ ] 11. luigi
[ ] 12. acer
[ ] 12a. acer – walmart 2 pack [different expression]
[ ] 13. grem
[ ] 13a. grem – walmart 2 pack [different expression]
[ ] 14. race team fillmore
[ ] 14a. race team fillmore (2-pack w/ travel wheels mcqueen; eyes right, mouth smirking)
[ ] 15. race team sarge
[ ] 16. rod torque redline
[ ] 16a. rod torque redline [tru 5pack - metal flake finish]
[ ] 17. submarine finn mcmissile
[ ] 18. holley shiftwell with wings
[ ] 19. red
[ ] 20. double decker bus
[ ] 21. nigel gearsley
[ ] 21a. nigel gearsley [kmart rubber tires]
[ ] 22. max schnell
[ ] 23. shu todoroki
[ ] 23a. shu todoroki [kmart rubber tires]
[ ] 24. zen master pitty
[ ] 25. brent mustangburger
[ ] 26. darrell cartrip
[ ] 27. uncle topolino
[ ] 27a. uncle topolino with tires [tru 5pack]
[ ] 28. lightning mcqueen with party wheels
[ ] 28a. lightning mcqueen with party wheels [tru 5pack - different expression and indented rims]
[ ] 29. damaged rod torque redline
[ ] 30. tomber
[ ] 31. pit crew mater with headphone
[ ] 32. mater with spy glasses
[ ] 33. finn mcmissile with weapons
[ ] 34. miguel camino
[ ] 35. tomber sipping oil
[ ] 36. wasabi mater
[ ] 37. petrov trunkov
[ ] 38. metallic lightning mcqueen
[ ] 39. mater [from connect puzzle - no. fiery 95 on side panel/ silver rims]
[ ] 40. finish line frenzy mcqueen – gold decals [tru playset]
[ ] 40a. finish line frenzy mcqueen – silver decals [tru playset]
[ ] 41. miles axlerod
[ ] 42. ronnie del cooper [mini cooper]
[ ] 43. lightning mcqueen with travel wheels
[ ] 44. kingpin nobunaga
[ ] 45. hydrofoil finn mcmissile
[ ] 46. lewis hamilton
[ ] 47. hydraulic ramone [hi lo]
[ ] 48. fred fisbowski
[ ] 49. tyler gremlim
[ ] 50. frank clutchenson
[ ] 51. kabuki dancer okuni
[ ] 52. kabuki dancer shigeko
[ ] 53. fillmore with headset
[ ] 54. carla's crew chief [cruz besouro]

9:47 am
July 27, 2011


BMW

Team 95 Roadie

posts 193

There are variant Holleys with cardback and wheels
cardback 15/15 with backwards spokes.
cardback 15/15 forwards spokes
cardback 15/16 with backwards spokes
cardback 16/16 forwards spokes

12:11 pm
July 27, 2011


Mike Manifold

Chi-Car-Go

Member

posts 717

Wow, someone carve this info on a stone stele, quick! Sorry the link didn't work, Slicepie, it does from my iBook using Safari for some reason. Any way it is the page entitled "Cars 2 Case Lists" on that other site. Thanks BMW, you rock!

2:42 pm
July 27, 2011


slicepie

Original Member of Two A Day Wordpress

Member

posts 1029

Quote from Mike Manifold on July 27, 2011, 12:11
…Sorry the link didn't work, Slicepie, it does from my iBook using Safari for some reason…

Well for whatever reason it is working now. I tried it 3 times earlier with no luck but this last time it loaded the page just fine.

Thousands of Cars available for trade or sale.  Always looking for older and harder to find Cars.  Email me at slicepie@roadrunner.com

3:14 pm
July 27, 2011


jestrjef

Central FLA

Member

posts 953

Gremilin???? Dag gum LEMONS! Laugh

Quote from slicepie on July 27, 2011, 14:42

Quote from Mike Manifold on July 27, 2011, 12:11
…Sorry the link didn't work, Slicepie, it does from my iBook using Safari for some reason…

Well for whatever reason it is working now. I tried it 3 times earlier with no luck but this last time it loaded the page just fine.

3:31 pm
July 27, 2011


slicepie

Original Member of Two A Day Wordpress

Member

posts 1029

That is a pretty comprehensive list but I would have to take exception with labeling rubber tire cars as variants. They just don't fit under the standard definition of a variant. They would be more of a sub-set.

Thousands of Cars available for trade or sale.  Always looking for older and harder to find Cars.  Email me at slicepie@roadrunner.com

4:07 pm
July 27, 2011


BMW

Team 95 Roadie

posts 193

Well, its a choice of words. So call it what you prefer.

Everyone wants a list of what is out, so this list is basically all the Cars 2 Cars out at this time regardless of how
you designate them.

4:51 pm
July 27, 2011


slicepie

Original Member of Two A Day Wordpress

Member

posts 1029

The issue is not with the list, the list itself is great. The issue is the labeling. It's not really a choice of words as it is a changing of the definition of what constitutes a variant.

A variant in general terms is anything that deviates from the standard, usually only slightly, and is generally unintentional.

Rubber tire cars are more than a slight deviation from the standard and are intentionally produced that way and as such are marketed in a different package. That breaks both of the main rules regarding the definition of a variant. Thus, not a variant.

Thousands of Cars available for trade or sale.  Always looking for older and harder to find Cars.  Email me at slicepie@roadrunner.com

7:04 pm
July 27, 2011


BMW

Team 95 Roadie

posts 193

Ok Jake, I do know what a variant is.

I will just say the list comprises all the different Cars 2 out in various manner of manufacture. We decided rather than show say 100 different Cars, we would show each Car of the original release and let people decide if they want to collect all the types.

10:20 pm
July 27, 2011


slicepie

Original Member of Two A Day Wordpress

Member

posts 1029

Quote from BMW on July 27, 2011, 19:04
Ok Jake, I do know what a variant is.

Great, I am glad we're in agreement then! And I am looking forward to seeing the updated list with rubber tire cars labeled as something other than variants. 😉

Thousands of Cars available for trade or sale.  Always looking for older and harder to find Cars.  Email me at slicepie@roadrunner.com

5:39 am
July 30, 2011


schumi84f1

Rookie

posts 8

there is a variant of Carla Veloso in the french Card (with Cruz Besuro) 😉

8:27 pm
July 31, 2011


John in Missouri

Mid-Missouri

Member

posts 529

Quote from BMW on July 27, 2011, 09:47
There are variant Holleys with cardback and wheels
cardback 15/15 with backwards spokes.
cardback 15/15 forwards spokes
cardback 15/16 with backwards spokes
cardback 16/16 forwards spokes

Shouldn't the backwards spokes be considered production goofs rather than variants?

6:55 am
August 1, 2011


jestrjef

Central FLA

Member

posts 953

I was just thinking the same thing, John. That is a production error becuase the worker put them on the wrong direction.

Quote from John in Missouri on July 31, 2011, 20:27

Quote from BMW on July 27, 2011, 09:47
There are variant Holleys with cardback and wheels
cardback 15/15 with backwards spokes.
cardback 15/15 forwards spokes
cardback 15/16 with backwards spokes
cardback 16/16 forwards spokes

Shouldn't the backwards spokes be considered production goofs rather than variants?

11:41 am
August 1, 2011


slicepie

Original Member of Two A Day Wordpress

Member

posts 1029

Quote from jestrjef on August 1, 2011, 06:55
I was just thinking the same thing, John. That is a production error becuase the worker put them on the wrong direction.

It is a production error, but what would make it a variant is that it was fairly widely produced so somewhat easily available.

Thousands of Cars available for trade or sale.  Always looking for older and harder to find Cars.  Email me at slicepie@roadrunner.com

12:39 pm
August 1, 2011


John in Missouri

Mid-Missouri

Member

posts 529

Quote from slicepie on August 1, 2011, 11:41
It is a production error, but what would make it a variant is that it was fairly widely produced so somewhat easily available.

It's indeed a "common error", but still not a variant.

A variant is an element that gets changed in later production, like the Supercharged Fabulous Hudson Hornet, first produced with silver rims but later with red ones.

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