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Mattel Disney Pixar CARS: Mac iCar (The Apple Car)

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No, it is not scheduled to come out in the next two months.

Beyond that, who really knows?

My opinion is that it will be out at some future time.

The time doesn’t matter because whenever it comes out, Mattel will sell it by the bushels.

(A bushel of course, being 4 pecks … er, okay, how about 48 apples to a bushel as an Apple to apple comparison? :-) )

It is literally an ace up the sleeve … anytime they’ll need revenue for the CARS line, they can whip it out … er, roll it out.

There has always been some concerns that Mattel doesn’t have the right to issue the car or now that it’s been released, those theorists have now modified their fears that it was a limited one-shot deal since the MSoS came out.

As a Mac fan, I know everything Apple tends to generate a lot of extra buzz no matter how far fetched … like the MacTablet (it’s not coming, give it up). You just have to look back at the time last October when the MSoS was quasi previewed and there were 10-15% of CARS collectors who were flat out convinced there would only be 35 CARS … perhaps it’s just easier to panic? I’m not sure.

First, that makes no sense logically for it not to happen. Unless there’s some huge falling out between Apple & Pixar, that fear makes very little sense. Is Apple very protective of its imagery and logo, of course - so is any corporation these days because dilution of trademark is well, dilution of trademark …

But in this case, Pixar & Apple could not be more closely tied together and in some senses, even more so than 99% of corporations. In fact, in most corporations, you find it easier to deal with an outside 3rd partner than another department because at least with a outside partner, everyone understands their motive is profit and branding while with two internal departments, the fear is you might make the other guy look good and he takes your job someday (or becomes your boss) … in the case of Apple & Pixar, John Lassetter can pick up the phone to Steve Jobs and vice versa to resolve any issues with one phone call - not many companies have two heads who actually work together as well. So, Apple & Steve Jobs knows that John Lassetter & Pixar is not going to place the Apple logo on a garbage barge … of course, Apple will want to review the design but if John Lassetter & Pixar signs off to Mattel, they will accept it as if their brother vouched for it.

Apple certainly doesn’t need the licensing money from selling a Piston Cup racer nor the publicity but again, because of the close relationship - they trust Pixar much more than any two corporations can … and they know that releasing or selling an Apple-logo car is not going to harm them in any conceivable aspect.

So, where does this lead us. Now, I have not look at this particular contract so I cannot say 100% anything but generally, when you agree to license your logo for a film property and for ancillary merchandise, you agree to license for a certain amount of time and with certain provisions for approval. In the case where the “film role” is a car, it’s natural that the merchandising include a facsimile diecast car … anything outside of this “role,” will require new approvals - for instance, if they decided they wanted to make an Apple Car playset (which does not appear in the film), they would need additional approval but the car will be included in the general merchandising rights. With that said, there are obvious sign-offs for approval for each appearance. For instance, Apple probably wouldn’t approve a “wrecked” version of the Apple car.

Conversely, Mattel realizes this car is not only wanted by the CARS collector but also by Mac fans so there’s no real point in selling it as a single carded car when Mattel can make so much more selling it separately … (maybe not $250 as its going for on eBay) but certainly more than $3.49 … bottom line, Mattel could bundle a sealed box of 18 of just Dale Jr.’s & the Apple car and the store shelves would be stripped bare … so my prediction is that we won’t see the Apple CAR in another form until at least 2009 and it’ll be in some special format - why not, it’s clear people will pay anywhere from $40 to $75 for this car without a moment’s hesitation (at $250, the hesitation is a bit longer but not by much :-) ).

But as with the Apple CAR … the only reason not to re-release something is if they don’t think it will sell … will we see more “pullback” CARS … pretty unlikely … will we see the Apple car again … my opinion is YES … will we see it an single in 2012? Maybe … but only after it’s been available in some deluxe set for $99 in 2009 … and then a smaller deluxe set for $49 later in 2009 and then as a deluxe launcher in 2010 … and just before the first wave of CARS 2 cars hits the shelves in 2011 … maybe finally as a single but only after Mattel has squeezed a million dollars from it … so unless Mattel is willing to walk away from a million dollars to prove no real point (they have never publicly announced anything from the MSoS is an exclusive - just that it’s exclusive to the Red Line Club of May of 2008).*

But when will it be out is another question. We still have 4 long years before the next movie comes out - this car is worth its weight in gold to Mattel. They can release it on tax day in a recession & a hurricane flood and still make serious money with it. Imagine it bundled with a Pit Crew and a trailer? $99? $149? AND it will sell out. As you can see by the Comic Con announcements and by the drool on our keyboards, we are ready, willing and interested to buy a bunch of other CARS in the meanwhile … so Mattel can wait.

The intention is clear they intend to make 36 trailers - by that inference, as Noel asks - why would you sell a trailer without giving more than 900-1,000 in this world to park an Apple car next to it … or the numerous Pitty’s and a Crew Chief (named Steven Pixar?) to gow ith it?

Now with that said, until it’s on the store shelves, then it’s really out - until then, we wait.

Again, just my opinion there is no need to do anything but wait.

* besides, if they’re going to go by the letter of their alledged promise to have an exclusive car available nowhere else … that aggro-faced Dale Jr. serves that purpose.

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26 Comments »

  1. The Apple car will lose it’s mystique if and/or when it becomes available to everybody. It will just be another die cast like all the other ones.

    I hope they keep it exclusive but who knows.

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  2. p.s.

    One of the SoS stickers (#56) is already over $100 on eBay. You wouldn’t know there were problems with the economy when people will pay $100+ for a sticker because it has a certain number on it. My guess is he/she will get the $250 asking price.

    One day, when all these SoS cars are available to everybody and the set is no longer special, some of these insane buyers will have to look back and say “What the hell was I thinking!”.

    jackdaddy, I know you are trying to put together an SoS set from scratch, but my advice to you is just wait it out.

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  3. Thanks for another insightful post.

    What are your thoughts about Sarge? I keep getting tempted to pay 20$ - 30$ on ebay but I know that as soon as I do they will re-release him and I’ll be able to walk in to Target and find him with a bunch of Ramones. I am an opener so I just want one or two (I have like so many others started doing the “one for me, one for the boy”).

    Thanks,
    Jeff

    (MET: Well, Sarge is not scheduled to come out in the next three weeks - that’s the extent right now as they have not listed beyond that … All signs point to another WM exclusive cube so who knows … like the Apple CAR, I’d advise waiting a few more weeks before deciding …).

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  4. Thanks for the quick response. I did not see the cube at either of my two Walmarts. So I am still looking for Trunk Fresh too. Thanks!

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  5. HELLO MET, I HAVE TWO OF THE SUPERCHARGED SARGES I WAS WONDERING THE SUPERCHARGED WERE THE RECALLED ONES.

    (MET: Yes, almost all of the SC ones were recalled but honestly, if you don’t have young kids around who are not going to put it in their mouths … it’s not like Sarge is meant to be a food item and it’s hard to imagine that unless you plan on chewing Sarge everyday that you will receive enough lead to matter but obviously it’s better to be safge for young tykes but for adults, it’s fine to keep a lead Sarge - just don’t lick or chew on it and b) don’t pass it along to anyone with kids …).

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  6. OH YA AND WILL PIT CREW SARGE EVER COME OUT AND WILL IT BE A EXCLUSIVE

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  7. Interesting thoughts on the Apple Car. I broke down and purchased one on ebay for $75. I will probably be one of those who says later on, what was I thinking. I am an imac user. Have been since my Bondi Blue which I got the first month it came out. The Apple Car will have a special place on my shelf next to LSMQ.

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  8. I admire all the work you guys do here and constantly look for new info. I have a petition online about the Apple Car and so far 550 supporters have signed. Mattel already knows about it thru Consumer Relations, but we need more signatures. Please help us and join us on this effort.

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  9. I was the 522nd person 2 sign the petition.

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  10. How do I sign the petition for Apple car and other Motor speedway of the south racers.

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  11. What is the pettion about the Apple Car about? Is it to bring the Apple Car on a single card to retailers for those of us who were not able to buy the Speed Way of the South Set?

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  12. The Apple car should be kept exclusive IMO or what the hell did we pay $300 for in the first place?

    (MET: I don’t know about you but I paid $299 for the hologram sticker - the rest of it is just gravy :razz: ).

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  13. I paid $299 for the extra long plastic mounting dohickey for Chick Hicks, it’s apparently the most exclusive part of the set at this point.

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  14. That’s nothing. I paid that much for the all 36 plastic bags & plastic tray the cars were shipped in (not including any cardboard). This stuff will be extremely rare in a few years as I’m sure no one thought to save it from the trash can.

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  15. So….

    Is a single Apple car worth 105.00? plus shipping?

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  16. Since I just got my Apple Car from ebay, I took a few pictures of my display area. These are just my loose cars. All the packaged ones are in plastic boxes LOL.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/29391372@N02/sets/72157606635129812/

    hope this link works

    (MET: Very nice & organized. Let me send over five 3-year olds to test it out ;-) ).

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  17. Speaking of Ebay. Has anyone had problems getting on Ebay this weekend? I could access with no problem Thursday night but since then I get nothing but the spinning wheel and then a message saying Internet Explorer can not connect to this website. I had some message about some accounts chosen to test a new search method but I selected to opt out of the test. I can log on to anyone else’s site with no problem. I would really appreciate help from the Cars community if anyone has any ideas. I’m totally stumped. Thanks! Oh yes. I have contacted Ebay twice about the problem with absolutely no responce.

    (MET: Just tried now - works as normal - 3:37 PDT … Next time, try this site - DOWN FOR EVERYONE OR JUST ME? Yep, there is an internet for the internet :-) ).

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  18. Thanks Met,
    I guess i’ll just have to wait and see if Ebay gets back to me.

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  19. Hi Again,

    I want to clarify a few things about the petition. First to Jonathan. You can sign the petition by going to this URL:
    http://www.PetitionOnline.com/iWant07/petition.html

    You can also find more info at this link
    http://www.iwantmug.com/home/Petition_to_Mattel.html

    To CarsFan, the petition is to have the Apple Car as a single card for all of us fans of Cars and fans of Apple as well. If you read our story at http://www.iwantmug.com/home/Petition_to_Mattel.html you will understand the purpose of the petition.

    To Noel, all I can say is that I find it very unfortunate that Mattel released just 1,000 boxes (or near 1,000) and the advertisment on it was through useful sites such as this one or thru collectors etc. The busy parent who does not belong to a club, but has to come home and explain a 2-5 year old child why he/she cannot get the white car with the Apple on top is reason enough to ask Mattel to release that car. The history that the character of the movie carries is reason enough to make it as valuable as you imply, but it is at the same time reason enough to sell thousands more, because that specific car reaches to a market that is not necessarily looking for BluRay McQueens or even Green Ramone. I am talking about Apple hard core fans who would love to have one of those cars sitting pretty by their computers at home, at work etc. I would but 7 just for that reason. I am talking about MUG’s (Apple User Groups) who I am sure would buy them by the hundreds for give-aways etc. In a way you will still have an exclusive set, cause my understanding is that the speedway of the south set scale is slightly smaller than the other cars sold. So all collectors can still brag about having the original ones. I want one for my soon to be made custom “Cars” cabinet. But, why you want to deny a child the chance to scratch and play with the white little car? I want Mattel to release all of the cars so I can get one to keep and cherish and one to have fun with my kid. But specially, as an Apple User since 1992, I want the Apple 84 car to be released for “the rest of us”.

    To finish, Noel, you need to know an important fact. This petition was written before the Speedway of the South was planned, and even before the release of the movie on Blu-Ray and DVD.

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  20. No problem Javier,

    I would expect some kind of exclusivity from the SoS set on Mattel’s part but it probably won’t happen. They made it sound like this was the only chance to get some of these cars but never said specifically which ones.

    I’m almost at the point where I want to sell it all and move onto something else. The fact that they have “chase” cars that all the store employees are keeping for themselves or getting them for thier scalper relatives is enough to make every true Cars collector angry.

    Do you honestly think if the Apple car ever hit store shelves that you would actually be able to get one at normal price of $3.97 or whatever they are going for now? You still can’t find a Wii and it’s been over a year and a half years since their release.

    I can guarantee you that you would be more aggravated paying $50+ on eBay for a regular release Apple than you would paying $100+ for a 1/1000 SoS version. If it is released, it will more than likely be part of some multi-car set which will be even harder to find and they split them up to make more money from each car individually.

    Either way, eBay will be the only choice to get the Apple car for 95% of the people who really want it. People are broke and greedy, and the economy stinks. Scalpers will step over thier own mothers empty stores of all the hot items and could care less if you want one for your kids to play with.

    You think you’re mad now, wait until they release the Apple car.

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  21. Edit:

    Scalpers will step over thier own mothers (to) empty (the) stores of all the hot items and could care less if you want one for your kids to play with.

    (MET: Ouch! Mama, don’t let your babies grow up to be eBayers)

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  22. I agree with most of what you are saying Noel, but at least Mattel should give people a 1 in 10,000 chances to get an Apple car than 1 in 1,000. I am actually trying to get at least one, because I do want a piece of history. I do hate the reality of scalping. But I prefer to have the chance to go hunting at the stores in hopes to find a car I dont have than swallowing what mattel has done so far. I have found the rarest Pixar Cars at Walgreens of all places. Cars like Luke, Tar McQueen, Chuki and others. So if they do them in large quantities there is a better chance to get them. And yes I can pay 5.00-6.00 at Walgreens no problem. What I am certain about is that the Cars Universe is growing at Star Wars like proportions and sometimes that takes the fun out, and like you i probably get tired of it and sell all. Specially if Mattel is one of the parties that makes it hard to collect.

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  23. a wrecked version of all the SotS would be to much metal, worth at least 2 mill 4 all those 36 or as the movie says 42, ( could CARS 2 tell us about the 6 others, could mcqueen be dreaming of finding 6 more racers?) i could see apple hitting 49.99 idk a exclusive for buying an apple computer or ipod, or even a 39.99 value pack with Mcqueen, King, Chick, Jr (smile version), then apple? ebay has a custom carded apple which is selling for 400 bucks.

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  24. I found this on ebay. Looks like some imperfect (factory reject) Apple Cars are being sold on ebay. This guy seems honest in letting people know they are not in mint condition. I wonder how many not so honest sellers will be trying to pass these off as original SOS cars. This is like the factory reject Blu Rays that have been going around on ebay and other online sellers lately.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Disney-Pixar-Cars-Apple-84-I-POD-Loose-Imprefect_W0QQitemZ130257465978QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item130257465978&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C66%3A3%7C65%3A10%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

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  25. First time post:

    I think that Apple in conjunction with Mattel will make this a mailaway promo for the purchase of an I-Pod (any) or I-Phone. Sounds like a great idea to me. Just a thought.

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  26. Do you suppose that the Apple car and Re-volting car are the same character. He switched bodies after the crash at the beginning of the movie. What a cheater.

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